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On 18 February 2019,Ren Zhengfei's exclusive interview with the BBC
The founder of Huawei said the United States could not kill Huawei. Ren Zhengfei gave an exclusive interview with Karishma Vaswani, the first international media interview since the arrest of his daughter, Huawei CFO.
Huawei is one of the world's leading telecommunications companies, with sales of more than $100 billion last year. But now Ren Zhengfei, the founder of Huawei, is facing the most important battle in his life. As mentioned in the indictment, since 2012.
Huawei began to work together to steal information about T-Mobile test robots. The U.S. government pressed its allies to avoid using Huawei products. For Ren, it was also his personal battle. His daughter was arrested in Canada and was facing extradition from the U.S. courts.
In an exclusive interview with the BBC, Ren Zhengfei said that the U.S. approach was politically driven.
Ren Zhengfei:They can't kill us. The United States constantly blames us for picking on us. Instead, it forces us to make our products better. From Huawei's success, the United States and its allies see the rise of China. Its core is a simple but crucial issue. Huawei is really an international company operating on the world stage.
Ren Zhengfei just wants to do one thing and build a global company in China that can compete with the best companies in the world. That's what he did. Ren Zhengfei, one of the special economic zones in Shenzhen, founded Huawei with only three employees and $2,500.
Ren Zhengfei:When I first started 30 years ago, the telecommunications industry was facing tremendous changes, equivalent to the sum of thousands of years in human history. It took only 30 years. When we started our business, we did not have a telephone. At that time, we used a handshake to shake the phone, just like the handshake phone we saw in the Second World War movies. We were very backward then. Huawei started to make some for sale to the countryside. Very simple equipment, we did not spend the money we earned, but reinvested in making more and more advanced equipment. We were lucky that China was developing the network industry on a large scale at that time. We found a market for our products in this way. If we start a business today, I don't know if we can succeed. We start a business to survive, not for ideals. What happened then? There would be no ideal, just to survive.
Reporter:Now Huawei is the top equipment supplier in the global telecom market. How did you do that?
Ren Zhengfei:It happens that my personality is more radical. A person who concentrates on only one thing will surely succeed. At that time, I was devoted to communication. If I was devoted to raising pigs, I might be the champion of raising pigs. If I was devoted to grinding tofu, I might also be the king of tofu. Unfortunately, I was devoted to doing communication. The communication industry was too difficult. When we entered this industry, we did not know that the threshold of this industry was very high. When we entered it, we would not be able to withdraw from it. We have nothing left. I have spent all the start-up funds, and I have to be a beggar to quit. So we have the courage to move forward step by step. Today, Huawei has become a global technology giant.
When I came to Huawei's latest European-style Park in Shenzhen, I had the opportunity to see the scale of the company's growth. This is one of the three major parks in Huawei. They have their own trains. This park alone is the size of 345 football fields. Wow, I can't believe they built this park in the center of an industrial city. Huawei has more than 180,000 employees around the world in just three years. It has grown to this scale in ten years. Whatever the criteria, the growth rate is amazing. But we don't just look at the scale of Huawei today. Huawei used to aim to keep pace with Apple and now sells more smartphones than Apple. Ren said that Huawei can achieve this goal because it is a private enterprise and is not dominated by shareholders, so it can. Freedom decides the company's future vision
Why is it not easy for us to succeed in other companies?
Listed companies should look at financial statements
You can't invest more profits, you can't invest less stocks.
We strive for our ideals
We know that as long as we put fertilizer in the soil, the soil becomes fertile.
We will be ahead of others and succeed.
Huawei invests more than $20 billion in R&D every year, ranking among the top five companies in the world in R&D investment.
Huawei invested billions of dollars in new research when some of the US telecom giants laid off workers and closed laboratories.
Li Pengfei is an engineer in Huawei
His team does not produce direct benefits in the field of basic research at the company.
It's not a direct profit for my research.
Most of my work is basic research.
My friends at Apple and Google in the United States work very hard and they have a lot of freedom in research.
Like them, I have the same freedom and similar environment.
We Chinese are working hard to develop and we hope to do better.
Right, we're learning. We're doing our best.
But some people think that Huawei won the market competition not only because of R&D investment.
These allegations expose Huawei's unscrupulous and sustained exploitation of American businesses and financial institutions.
At the same time, it threatens the free and fair global market.
The U.S. Department of Justice accused Huawei of stealing intellectual property rights, calling it a deliberate theft of U.S. T-Mobile's trade secrets.
Does the Justice Department justify Huawei's accusation of stealing technology from an American company?
I believe that all this will eventually be resolved by law in a legal country in the United States.
Sometimes I'm happy, too.
The United States is the most powerful country in the world. Senior U.S. officials have come all over the world to talk about Huawei.
Actually, our advertisements don't do that. People don't know why Huawei is.
Because they say that the whole world knows Huawei is getting a great cheap advertisement for us.
Cisco and Nortel Motorola have accused Huawei of stealing their ideas and technology.
So the United States calls Huawei an untrustworthy company. What do you think?
In fact, many of our technologies are far ahead of Western companies.
Not just 5G optical switching chips
Most of these leading technologies are very, very complex technologies.
The things the United States accuses are just marginal.
So we can't say that Huawei became so powerful today by stealing from the United States.
Now we don't have many things in America.
How to steal it?
However, Huawei is facing increasing pressure.
Mr. Ren is not only fighting for his own enterprise
His family is also involved.
The U.S. Department of Justice has charged Ren Zhengfei's daughter, Huawei, as chief financial officer, Meng Wanzhou.
The charges are bank fraud and conspiracy to violate U.S. sanctions against Iran
How do you feel as a father when you see your daughter facing such a difficult situation?
When she was locked up, I was very distressed as a father.
How can a child suffer such torment?
But this has happened.
Let's settle down and take the legal road to solve this problem.
I think this ordeal should be a rare opportunity for her as well.
And I believe that such a big thing must have wings for her future growth.
Thank the U.S. government for planting a strong wing in Meng's evening boat.
She will fly better in the future, I believe.
Have you considered your daughter as a successor, and have you any hope of seeing her become Huawei's CEO someday?
She will never succeed because she has no technical background.
I can't see the development of my children from the father's point of view.
We should also see that our children should fly freely.
Every child should have his own personality.
My children have strong personalities and are trying hard to be good at themselves.
Parents can't ask their children to be around us and live in harmony with us.
We feel that personal growth is very important to them.
Despite this major personal setback, Huawei is pushing ahead with a world-leading project, 5G technology.
In terms of multiple indicators, Huawei is at least one year ahead of its rivals in this field.
5G means the arrival of the era of real virtual networks and hyperlinks
Everything will be connected.
Our lives will therefore become more convenient and automated.
But worrying is anyone who controls the infrastructure behind the technology.
It's possible to control every aspect of our future life.
Ju Peiying, director of wireless research at Hua5G, said his concerns about security vulnerabilities in 5G were groundless.
From a technical point of view, 5G may be safer than the previous generation of 4G technology.
In a sense, we have developed some more sophisticated technologies.
Security itself requires cooperation between operators responsible for network operation and the government.
How much advantage does Huawei have over its competitor in 5G
What does this mean for Huawei
This means that we may expand our business layout to serve more customers.
It also benefits our customers, including operators and consumers.
At the most basic level, 5G technology connects toothbrushes and other daily necessities.
Data collection and analysis are performed every time you brush your teeth.
But at a more complex level, 5G will connect everything in the city.
From Room Temperature Control of Unmanned Vehicle Buildings to Operation Speed of Public Transportation System
And it's in China that it's becoming a reality.
Huawei Builds a Future Network Framework for an Old Residential Area in Shenzhen
Several cities in China will provide 5G services from next year.
Huawei is also building 5G infrastructure for other Asian countries
It's amazing how 5G technology is presented to me.
In the next twenty or thirty years, a great revolution will surely take place. This revolution is that human beings will enter the information society under the impetus of artificial intelligence and technological revolution.
The explosion must have something to support and the most advanced equipment to support it.
I don't think 5G and I don't think today's transmission technologies will meet the pinnacle of human goals.
I think there are more profound human needs to be addressed.
So today we're just at the beginning of change.
There's still a long way to go. We're trying to make information services faster, more timely, more accurate and cheaper for people.
But Huawei's 5G ambitions have made some countries nervous.
Australia and the United States have banned Huawei from participating in its 5G network infrastructure due to security concerns
You can learn more about people's lives by controlling 5G infrastructure
Tom Uren is responsible for assisting the government in formulating policies.
He thinks Huawei's security risks are very high.
Huawei has attracted much attention recently because they are building critical communication networks that are critical to the future.
Through relevant laws, enterprises and individuals were forced to assist them in carrying out intelligence activities.
The concern now is that Huawei will implant a backdoor in its 5G technology.
The Chinese government has made it clear that it will not let companies install backdoor Huawei, nor will it do so.
Huawei's sales revenue is hundreds of billions of dollars
It won't offend customers and countries all over the world.
Otherwise, we will have no business in the future.
How can we repay the bank without business?
I'm not going to take the risk either.
The story of dissolving the company is a sign of determination.
We won't do it.
Don't think Huawei is strong today.
It's because of the background.
100% of the state's enterprises have not done a good job.
Can we do it well with background?
Or are we working on it ourselves?
At present, there is no conclusive evidence to prove it.
Such concerns are enough to put pressure on U.S. allies, including Britain.
Ask them not to do business with Huawei
Although Australia has completely banned Huawei devices from its 5G network
Britain and New Zealand have yet to issue a ban on Huawei.
The head of Huawei's global network security project in London is John Suffolk.
He served as Chief Information Officer of the United Kingdom.
Understanding how deep outside doubts about Huawei are
We are indeed a Chinese-based company.
We are very proud of our Chinese ancestry and origin.
This is similar to the situation of Japan's automobile industry in the 1970s and 1980s.
Let's not take this too seriously.
We need to continue to meet customer needs
Continue to be open and transparent
Then let the business judge for itself.
Who can bring them the greatest long-term value?
If the United States succeeds in persuading its Western allies to ban Huawei equipment
What impact will this have on Huawei's business?
The West is not bright and the East is bright
Black north and South
The United States does not represent the world
The United States represents only a part of the world.
It's totally different from what the West knows about China.
Chinese law stipulates all enterprises in China
Whether Chinese or foreign-funded enterprises
All Party committees must be established.
This is the law. We have to abide by it.
In fact, before we set up the Party Committee
Motorola, IBM and Coca-Cola have established party committees.
The Role of Party Committee in Huawei
Just educating employees
Not participating in any business decisions
I think all enterprises must abide by the laws of their countries when necessary.
The same is true for telecommunications companies.
This is different from Western countries.
Western countries have independent courts and judicial systems
In fact, all companies can question those decisions.
Do you know that many people in the world are incredible?
Many countries can choose not to believe or not to cooperate with us.
Because the world is big.
Many other countries will accept us.
We have signed 31 5G contracts for over 30,000 5G base stations.
Accept us more and more
Let the facts speak for themselves.
You can't guess by guess. It's not law.
For Mr Ren, he has gone through a long journey.
Huawei is his lifelong endeavor. This experience is similar in many respects to China's rise.
Thirty or forty years ago, I did not study in the West.
Many of my good friends are studying in the United States and Canada.
I didn't go because I was a soldier.
I have no ID card and no right to study abroad. I missed that era.
They came back and told me what the supermarket was.
I have no idea of the term supermarket.
You can imagine how superficial our understanding of market economy was at that time.
I've been working in the army.
Complete obedience to orders
When commodities are suddenly traded in a market economy
I'm very unfamiliar, so I've suffered.
Overdone and overdone
But I have to get up because there are wives and children.
I want to feed them.
The indomitable spirit formed in the past helps Mr. Ren
At the helm of Huawei's own company, Huawei has undergone unprecedented rigorous censorship in the world.
I'm against the U.S. approach.
This politically motivated approach is undesirable
The United States likes to use sanctions to deal with problems.
They're going to do it this way, and we're against it.
But now that we have come to this point, we are still solving this problem through the courts.
Although Huawei is currently facing doubts from many sources
But Mr Ren thinks it's a mixed story.
Although Meng has no personal freedom now, he has no influence on the business of our company.
In fact, the company is growing faster now.
So they may have caught the wrong man in the arrest of Meng's late boat.
Maybe they thought they would collapse if they caught Meng Wanzhou and Huawei.
But we haven't collapsed. We're still moving forward.
For Mr Ren, progress is more than a choice.
This is the only way for Huawei to survive.